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Durst Rho 800 Presto reviews

Durst Rho 800 UV printer at FESPA 2007.

The Durst Rho 800 Presto is a very impressive work of art, and technology. This is one of the most sophisticated combo-style UV printers ever developed. Just a few days ago I again stood next to one.

But if you type Durst Rho 800 into Goggle, you get page after page of official press releases. Not a single actual meaningful comment about pros and cons. The printer is professional, the design is attractive (less clunky than other brands). The output is nice.

But if you seek meaningful documentation on most UV printers, actual facts, there is either zilch, or a pseudo-review (known in PR jargon as a “Success Story”). This is not the fault of Durst; the entire printer industry advertising system is arranged like this.

The Durst Rho 800 Presto printer was exhibited at ISA 2009.

Yet at FESPA ’07, total strangers came up to me and asked if I could help them decide which UV printer to buy. So clearly they want more than PR releases and success stories. At trade shows this averages about a million dollars worth of inquiries a day (easy, each buyer has about a quarter of a million dollars to spend; some half a million, so it only takes two to four total strangers a day).

Indeed I did not put on a FLAAR logo onto my shirt (otherwise a dozen people would have asked for help). I give help gladly (though I prefer it be done through pre-appointment via a consulting agreement).

A good example that “Success Stories” are not successful is the demise of L&P Virtu printers. The L&P spec sheets were vacant of meaningful information and most of what they offered were Success Stories. Because there was effectively no real information available, not a single complete FLAAR Report was ever written on any recent Virtu printer.

At SGIA ’07 the rumors were circulating already that L&P itself was looking for some other company to produce their printers. Two months later L&P announced they were pulling out of non-core businesses. So seemingly depending on Success Stories was not enough help.

For 2008 FLAAR is working to increase it’s coverage of UV printers so that alternatives to canned Success Stories will be available to printshop managers. So in 2008 we will visit the factories, demo rooms, and world headquarters of the leading manufacturers of UV printers in order to test the most sought after models of UV flatbed and roll-to-roll printers. Our first factory visit for 2008 is Durst, both in Lienz, Austria and in adjacent Brixen, Italy.

Durst Rho 800 Presto being tested during February 2008 on the Durst factory in Lienz by Nicholas Hellmuth.

Multiple Board System, “Continuous Board Printing Option”

The first time I noticed a continuous board printing system was at the MacDermid ColorSpan factory, May 8 th, a week before this 9840uv printer was introduced to the public at FESPA Digital, May 16-28 in Amsterdam (this is now the HP Scitex FB910).

There are over 200 models of UV printers, including over 100 major models, from more than 45 manufacturers. So I would have to look up in thousands of pages of notes to see where I saw a comparable feeding system next.

Durst now has a board feeding option that they call continuous board printing system. The idea is so you don’t have to wait for the first boards to be finished before you can start the second batch of boards. Plus, on the ColorSpan, IP&I 1606 and other printers you can line up several boards next to each other and run them all through at the same time (and start a second row of boards before the first batch are finished). It’s more efficient.

It’s a challenge to keep track of which printer offered what option first. Hypernics (in Korea) was one of the earlier printers that offered white ink (via Azero Creon in the US). But since Hypernics subsequently went out of business and since Durst introduced white ink about the same time, there is no historical record of which company really had it first. “First” is defined as being shown, functioning, at a trade show. The history of wide-format inkjet printing is poorly recorded; in some cases the FLAAR Reports evaluations, and especially our trade show reports, are among the few historical documents readily available.

We have seen the ColorSpan and IP&I systems in action during a day at the MacDermid factory in Minneapolis and two days in the IP&I factory in Korea. So these are easier to comment on than the Durst version (have not yet been to their demo room or factory).

Because the newer UV-cured flatbed printers have so many features, it is not realistic to inspect every aspect at a trade show. Besides, most of the features are not visible if the hood and cabinet doors are all closed.

So we tend to evaluate those UV printers where access is provided to the printer, inside and out (indeed you can see us actually inside the printers at the Teckwin factory, at the Gandinnovations factory, etc.

So far FLAAR has conducted comprehensive evaluations of the VUTEk QS3200 and 2000, the Gandinnovations Jeti flatbed, the NUR Tempo Q, the GRAPO Octopus and GRAPO Manta and we have several return visits scheduled for updates (to Gandy in Canada, NUR in Israel, and VUTEk in New Hampshire). The two-day visit inside the Zund factory, headquarters demo room and printer showrooms in Switzerland was particularly educational.

Here are Nicholas Hellmuth and Paul Clark at SFC Graphics, inspecting the Durst Rho 800.

I have found several printshops that have the Durst Rho 800, so I will initiate a site-visit case study as soon as time and research funding is available. In the meantime, it was possible to test the Durst Rho Presto at the Durst factory in Lienz, Austria. The precision workmanship that goes into the construction of this printer is impressive.

You can download all sample results on these UV printers right here. The other reports you can order from www.wide-format-printers.NET

Durst Rho 800 Presto at SGIA 2008.

Sample printed by the Durst Rho 800 Presto at Viscom Italy trade show 2007.

The Durst Rho 800HS is now (as of SGIA 2009) the Durst Rho 900.

 

 

Most recently updated October 14, 2009.

First posted August 13, 2007. Updated Jan. 27. 2008, Feb. 20, 2008.